They can both remember the warm Thanksgiving day, even though it's more than 20 years ago. Clo and Nia Wronski took a walk that day to Bay Point Park in Red Wing. Nia had met someone special, Helen LaFave, and knew she just had to tell her mother the truth.
She was a lesbian.
The mother and daughter could never have guessed then that they would all become advocates of gay marriage, or that one of the central figures in opposition to their view would be someone very close to them, LaFave's stepsister, Rep. Michele Bachmann.
LaFave recently gave her first extensive interview about the estranged relationship between her and Bachmann to the New York Times, expressing shock that the congresswoman would compare gay relationships like hers to "personal enslavement."
Bachmann's mother and LaFave's father married when LaFave was in seventh grade. LaFave always admired her older stepsister, Nia said.
LaFave declined to be interviewed, but Nia and Clo met me on a foggy Saturday in the house where Nia grew up with her parents and seven siblings.
While it's clear Nia is disturbed that Bachmann has made a crusade against gay marriage a cornerstone of her career, she instead wanted to focus on the unyielding support from her mother, an 89-year-old devout Catholic.
"When I met Helen, and I had all those emotions, I just knew that I had to come out," said Nia. "I knew my mom, so I knew it would be OK."