It was Oct. 28, 2013, and Leslie Frazier was well on his way to being fired by the Vikings. He was 1-6 and giving his morning-after account of how his defensive scheme — known for its simplicity — had allowed Aaron Rodgers to complete 12 of 12 third- and fourth-down passes for 187 yards, eight first downs and two touchdowns in another loss.
Poor Les. The scheme — a 4-3, Cover 2 look with few blitz packages — essentially was the same as it was in 2009, when his defense sacked Rodgers 14 times in two wins.
Les had left the podium after taking too much blame when this reporter approached with a trip down memory lane and a discussion about the relative value of scheme vs. personnel.
Frazier played cornerback in one of the more exotic, blitz-crazed and fabled defenses in NFL history. Da Bears of 1985 rode that "46 Defense" to a 15-1 record, the defensive scoring title (12.4 points allowed per game), two playoff shutouts and a 46-10 Super Bowl win.
Buddy Ryan was the famed architect of that defense, which had three Hall of Famers and nary a weak link. Ten years later, using the same scheme, Buddy was fired as head coach in Arizona after going 4-12 and finishing last in scoring defense (26.4).
So, Les, scheme vs. personnel? You make the call.
"Give me the personnel any day," Frazier said on that day in 2013. "All great teams, it's the personnel. Even when a coach makes a bad call, if you got the right personnel, they make it right."
That comment did not sit well with then-General Manager Rick Spielman. Spielman and Frazier had been at odds over personnel, particularly Spielman's release of cornerback Antoine Winfield before the season.