In the basement of this massive old brewery complex, Phil Gagne pauses, looks up and listens. Other than an air conditioner's hum, the room is silent.
But Gagne isn't listening to the space as it is now. He is hearing history.
"It was hot, noisy and wet down here," Gagne says. "I can still hear the clanging of the bottles."
The buildings that once made up the Schmidt Brewery in St. Paul are in the midst of a massive makeover. The brewhouse and bottlehouse have been transformed into artist lofts. The former keg house was just unveiled as Keg and Case, a market packed with food-focused tenants. Up next: the neighboring rathskeller building, built in 1935 and known for its German-style basement beer hall.
As director of operations for those last two projects, Gagne is a big part of what the Schmidt Brewery Complex will become. But he might be better known by his unofficial role: resident historian.
"He's probably the person who knows the most about that whole complex," says Michael Bjornberg, owner of MBjornberg Design, the projects' historic consultant. "From top to bottom — literally.
"He's probably as much a fixture around there as the buildings themselves."
As much a fixture as the underground tunnels that crisscross the property and the caves that brought brewers to the site back in 1855 to start Cave Brewery. (The dark, cool caves provided natural refrigeration for the kegs to come.)