Harvey Mackay: Want to sell more or build bigger business? Listen more

Active listening is a trait shared by billionaire tech entrepreneur Charles Wang, Walmart founder Sam Walton and Norman Brinker, the man behind several restaurant chains.

For the Minnesota Star Tribune
March 20, 2022 at 7:00PM
The late Charles Wang, a billionaire owner of Computer Associates (and the New York Islanders), attributes the success of his company to listening to what clients wanted. (Mary Alteffer, AP, File/The Minnesota Star Tribune)

Listening is in danger of becoming a lost art. This old anonymous piece, slightly abridged, just about sums it up:

"When I ask you to listen to me and you start giving advice, you have not done what I asked.

"When I ask you to listen to me and you begin to tell me why I shouldn't feel that way, you are trampling on my feelings.

"When I ask you to listen to me and you feel you have to do something to solve my problems, you have failed me, strange as that may seem.

All I ask is that you listen."

To remind us all, March is International Listening Month.

Listening is important to business. When Charles Wang's family arrived in America, they had only two suitcases. Wang, now a multibillionaire, said his company grew because he and fellow employees listened to their clients. While most computer companies sell people what they need, Wang decided to ask customers what they wanted.

Sam Walton, founder of Walmart, said: "The key to success is to get out into the store and listen to what the associates have to say. It's terribly important for everyone to get involved. Our best ideas come from clerks and stockboys."

Walton once took his corporate plane to Mt. Pleasant, Texas, and told the pilot to pick him up 100 miles or so down the road. He jumped in a Walmart truck and rode the rest of the way to "chat with the driver." I suspect he let the driver do most of the talking.

Norman Brinker, the former chair of the restaurant chain Chili's, said responsive communication is the key to good relations with both employees and shareholders. It pays huge dividends. Almost 80% of the Chili's menu came from suggestions made by unit managers.

Too many salespeople talk when they should listen.

Ben Feldman was the first salesman to crack the $25 million mark in a calendar year. And then he doubled that figure. He was the insurance company New York Life's leading sales rep for more than two decades, and he did this in the small town of East Liverpool, Ohio. When asked his secret, he said:

1. Work hard.

2. Think big.

3. Listen very well.

Improve your listening with these tips from the Healthline website:

Give people your full attention. Concentrate on their words to the exclusion of everything else. Don't plan your response while they're still speaking, and don't use a pause to steer the conversation around to another topic.

Use positive body language. Your body communicates just as much as your words do, if not more. Make sure you're fully facing the other person. Relax your body, but lean in slightly to show interest in what they're saying. Make eye contact. Nod to show you're listening and that you understand.

Don't interrupt. You may be tempted to jump in with an idea or solution. Restrain the impulse. Instead, wait to start talking before asking questions or offering your point of view.

President Franklin Roosevelt often endured long receiving lines at the White House. He complained that no one really paid any attention to what was said. One day during a reception, a story goes, he decided to try an experiment.

To each person who passed down the line and shook his hand, he murmured, "I murdered my grandmother this morning." Most guests responded with phrases like: Marvelous! Keep up the good work. We are proud of you. God bless you, sir.

Only one person noticed, in some versions an ambassador, in some a banker. Nonplussed, this person leaned over and whispered, "I'm sure she had it coming."

Mackay's Moral: If you want people to listen to you, you must listen to them.

Harvey Mackay is a Minneapolis businessman. Contact him at 612-378-6202 or e-mail harvey@mackay.com.

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