Chub Reynolds was in his coach's office at the University of Northwestern in mid-August 1990. He was discussing the football programs at Northwestern and its Arden Hills neighbor Bethel, and also his impending death because of a terminal cancer diagnosis that already was past due by almost a year.
Reynolds had been hired as Bethel's football coach in 1970, when it was an independent and regularly losing against a mishmash of teams.
Then came what Reynolds referred to as the "glory years," two seven-win seasons and an overall record of 19-7 from 1975 through 1977.
Among the outstanding players was Steve Johnson, a tackle who found his way from Chicago to the then-small Baptist school.
Those wins gave visions of grandeur to the Bethel administration, which applied for and received admission to the MIAC for the 1978-79 school year.
The Royals went 4-16 overall and 2-13 in their first two seasons in the MIAC and Reynolds was fired. He became an assistant coach at Northwestern, then the head coach.
"For nine years, I would open the paper on Sunday morning in the fall, look at the Bethel score, see it lost again and laugh," Reynolds said. "That changed last season when they hired Steve Johnson. As far as I'm concerned, he is one of my boys."
And three-plus decades later, after the program building, and all the wins, and a national Coach of the Year honor, Steve Johnson will sit in his office for a long conversation and make sure to mention the influence that Chub had on his career.