Recently, I asked Hennepin County Chief Judge Todd Barnette about the most impactful encounter he'd had with police.
He leaned back in his chair and nodded.
"Which time?" he said.
Every Black man I know has a story about the time they thought an interaction with police might lead to tragedy.
Barnette, 57, who is Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey's pick to become the city's next community safety commissioner, is no exception.
He was 16 years old, and he'd been driving in his native Washington, D.C., shortly after he'd received his license, when a city squad car roared by him on a tight street and suddenly stopped.
"From what I could see, he was infuriated and he's walking up [to my car], I could see him in my mirror," Barnette told me. "He is walking up to my car with his hand on his gun. … And he accused me of almost hitting him. He jumped out. I just didn't, I didn't see him."
It's important to know how the potential face of public safety views, well, public safety at the granular level. Those perceptions are shaped by experiences — experiences that Black, Indigenous and people of color throughout the city have endured at disproportionate rates.