The subject was $1,000 bullet-proof blankets being marketed to keep children safe in schools.
"It seems to me we've reached some level of craziness," Dennis Carlson said recently, on the eve of his retirement as superintendent of the Anoka-Hennepin School District, the state's largest.
"Children have to feel safe," Carlson continued. "But this is the atmosphere we're going to set for them? My God!"
Carlson, 66, who became superintendent in 2009 and guided Anoka-Hennepin through its most tumultuous and scrutinized period ever, was asked what his legacy might be and to predict the future of education.
He talked about how, earlier this month, a disabled student left his wheelchair, walked on stage and accepted his Blaine High School diploma as the audience erupted in applause.
At another school, Carlson said a custodian approached him. "I just want to thank you," the man told Carlson. "My daughter got the best education possible."
And then he talked about the dozens of gay and lesbian kids he met with repeatedly in recent years, kids who were bullied in numerous ways, and about the kids who fought for a landmark consent decree that created a five-year anti-harassment partnership between the school district and the U.S. Departments of Justice and Education.
"We did well with keeping our kids safe and making our gay kids feel safe and normal," Carlson said.